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steven robinette



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Do I need two licenses to run Fail-over Mode on one box? We have a server running 24x7 as a service. It runs literally 24x7. The service crashes about once a week or so but we can’t seem to find a pattern or underlying cause. I will be looking into this more shortly. However I saw in the documentation that there is a feature called Fail-over Mode. Due to architectural reasons we cannot use another server. But I would still like to use the feature and I read in the help file a basic blurb that footnoted for FOM the standby service can be running on the same box as the master. I couldn’t get a clear picture on how to set it up though.

Would I need a second license or can I run two instances of the same install, one in master mode and the other in standby? If I can run two instances could you elaborate on how to set it up?

Thanks for any information you can provide.

Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:56 pm View user's profile Send private message
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Post Re: Fail-over Mode Reply with quote

You cannot actually run both master and standby schedulers on the same computer. They have to be physically on 2 different computers (or 2 virtual servers with 2 different IP addresses).

Regarding the weekly crashes try scheduling an automated service restart every night or every few days. You would need to make a batch file like
NET STOP "24x7 Scheduler"
NET START "24x7 Scheduler"
and schedule it to run as often as required.

: Do I need two licenses to run Fail-over Mode on one box? We have a server
: running 24x7 as a service. It runs literally 24x7. The service crashes
: about once a week or so but we can’t seem to find a pattern or underlying
: cause. I will be looking into this more shortly. However I saw in the
: documentation that there is a feature called Fail-over Mode. Due to
: architectural reasons we cannot use another server. But I would still like
: to use the feature and I read in the help file a basic blurb that
: footnoted for FOM the standby service can be running on the same box as
: the master. I couldn’t get a clear picture on how to set it up though.

: Would I need a second license or can I run two instances of the same install,
: one in master mode and the other in standby? If I can run two instances
: could you elaborate on how to set it up?

: Thanks for any information you can provide.

Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:32 pm View user's profile Send private message
steven robinette



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Post Re: Fail-over Mode Reply with quote

: You cannot actually run both master and standby schedulers on the same
: computer. They have to be physically on 2 different computers (or 2
: virtual servers with 2 different IP addresses).

I read in the help file that you could under [About Fail-over Mode]. It says, “Optionally you can run both Master and Standby Schedulers on the same machine. This secures continued processing in case of the Master Scheduler failure”. I hope that it can because it would be quite helpful.

: Regarding the weekly crashes try scheduling an automated service restart
: every night or every few days. You would need to make a batch file like
: NET STOP "24x7 Scheduler"
: NET START "24x7 Scheduler"
: and schedule it to run as often as required.

Thanks for the idea. I actually had thought of that too. I got mixed responses on the team but I am planning on asking for mgr permission to set it up to see if it helps. In the past, with other services I’ve had sporadically crash, I have had them stopped/restarted each night and it greatly lessened the occurrence of crashes.

Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:07 pm View user's profile Send private message
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Post Re: Fail-over Mode Reply with quote

Yes, that is possible if you don't run them as a service. The same service name is used for both modes.

: I read in the help file that you could under [About Fail-over Mode]. It says,
: “Optionally you can run both Master and Standby Schedulers on the same
: machine. This secures continued processing in case of the Master Scheduler
: failure”. I hope that it can because it would be quite helpful.

: Thanks for the idea. I actually had thought of that too. I got mixed
: responses on the team but I am planning on asking for mgr permission to
: set it up to see if it helps. In the past, with other services I’ve had
: sporadically crash, I have had them stopped/restarted each night and it
: greatly lessened the occurrence of crashes.

: Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it.

Wed Aug 09, 2006 6:50 pm View user's profile Send private message
steven robinette



Joined: 09 Aug 2006
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Post Re: Fail-over Mode Reply with quote

: Yes, that is possible if you don't run them as a service.
: The same service name is used for both modes.

Ooh. That is a little silly. Darn. Thanks for the input. I guess I will have to see if we see any inprovement from stopping/starting the service each night. Thanks again. I appreciate it.

Thu Aug 10, 2006 9:06 am View user's profile Send private message
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