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				I wish I could describe this better but here goes...
 
 
This was off of a fresh reboot, I fired up Query Analyzer, and connected to my local database.
 
 
I typed in "USE " and expected the prompt to come up for the database list. Instead Query Analyzer became unresponsive, as did Windows Explorer. I tried to bring up task manager via CTRL+SHIFT+ESC but it did't work so I tried CTRL+ALT+DELETE. That worked and I chose "Start Task Manager". Task Manager didn't start and my entire screen was black, with only the mouse cursor being displayed. I tried the same steps a couple of times, until finally CTRL+ALT+DELETE stopped working, at which point I had no choice but to perform a hard reboot.
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		| Fri Jul 13, 2007 2:48 am | 
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				I am sorry to hear this. I assume it occurred on a Vista system? Somebody else also reported this problem recently and it also occurred on Vista.
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				Yes, Vista.
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				Hello,
 
 
I'm experiencing exactelly the same issues (windows vista, v2.5.12..). 
 
As explained ChisRickard, everything becomes unresponsive and no way to bring up task manager (screen goes black). I tried waiting for a while (20 min) but nothing changed.
 
It happens often enough to be very anoying.
 
 
I'm considering buying a software like SQL Assist for my company but this issue is too critical.
 
Can you tell me if you plan to fix this in a near future?
 
 
Thanks in advance!
 
 
Raf
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				Hi,
 
 
We are happy to fix this IMMEDIATELLY if we can somehow reproduce the issue or gather sufficient information from a user system and understand what is causing it. We suspect that it is caused by some software conflict. Please work with us a help us find the cause of the problem. We will be happy to reward anyone with a free license who could shed some light on the root case of this!
 
 
Please stay tuned, we are going to post some questions for you that can help to find the cause.
 
 
Thanks, SysOp
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			rafmib 
			 
			
  
			
			
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				Ok that's great!
 
 
Other infos i can give you right now:
 
 
-software running asside SQL Assistance (auto launch): Ad muncher, MSN 8.1, Snag It, NOD 32 v2.7, Daemon Tools v4.09HE
 
-Always using SQL Assistance with SQL Management Studio + VS Studio 2005.
 
-When i suspend it, the problem doesn't seems to occur
 
-Also i got used to immediately suspend it just after a reboot because it happened to freeze my system just after a reboot too (SQL Management Studio not running)
 
 
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				Do you have Just-In-Time debugger enabled in VS? Can you post the output of tasklist command?
 
 
cmd /C tasklist /V > processes.txt
 
cmd /C tasklist /SVC > services.txt
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				Yes i have Just in Time enabled.
 
 
processes.txt: 
 
 
Image Name                     PID Session Name        Session#    Mem Usage Status          User Name                                              CPU Time Window Title                                                            
 
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System Idle Process              0 Services                   0         16 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     1:53:29 N/A                                                                     
 
System                           4 Services                   0      2140 K Unknown         N/A                                                     0:00:20 N/A                                                                     
 
smss.exe                       436 Services                   0        524 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
csrss.exe                      512 Services                   0      4384 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:02 N/A                                                                     
 
wininit.exe                    564 Services                   0      2984 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
csrss.exe                      576 Console                    1     11056 K Running         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:03 N/A                                                                     
 
services.exe                   608 Services                   0      5880 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:02 N/A                                                                     
 
lsass.exe                      620 Services                   0      2632 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:01 N/A                                                                     
 
lsm.exe                        628 Services                   0      4492 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
winlogon.exe                   792 Console                    1      4632 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    816 Services                   0      5172 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:02 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    872 Services                   0      6608 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE                            0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    904 Services                   0      5792 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:01 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    964 Services                   0      8716 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE                              0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    996 Services                   0     59676 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:19 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                   1008 Services                   0     17692 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:02 N/A                                                                     
 
audiodg.exe                   1128 Services                   0      3084 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE                              0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
SLsvc.exe                     1196 Services                   0      3292 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE                            0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                   1288 Services                   0      8708 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE                              0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                   1400 Services                   0     14992 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE                            0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
spoolsv.exe                   1576 Services                   0      8584 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:06 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                   1604 Services                   0      8344 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE                              0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
AppleMobileDeviceService.     1848 Services                   0      2592 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
mDNSResponder.exe             1860 Services                   0      3500 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
GoogleUpdate.exe              1944 Services                   0      3856 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
SMSvcHost.exe                 1952 Services                   0      8808 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE                              0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
nod32krn.exe                   380 Services                   0     14288 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:11 N/A                                                                     
 
oodag.exe                      456 Services                   0      3420 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                     12 Services                   0      3160 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE                            0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    772 Services                   0      4684 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\LOCAL SERVICE                              0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                   1356 Services                   0      5000 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
webtool.exe                    676 Services                   0      3540 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
svchost.exe                    556 Services                   0      1948 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
MsPMSPSv.exe                  2064 Services                   0      2024 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
SearchIndexer.exe             2096 Services                   0     36624 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:09 N/A                                                                     
 
taskeng.exe                   2508 Services                   0      5372 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
taskeng.exe                   3416 Console                    1      9272 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 MCI command handling window                                             
 
dwm.exe                       3508 Console                    1     98872 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:19 DWM Notification Window                                                 
 
explorer.exe                  3548 Console                    1     49208 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:11 N/A                                                                     
 
stsystra.exe                  3696 Console                    1      5336 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 SigmatelSysTray                                                         
 
jusched.exe                   3708 Console                    1      2832 K Not Responding  SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 OleMainThreadWndName                                                    
 
nod32kui.exe                  3724 Console                    1      6616 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 IHW2                                                                    
 
issch.exe                     3840 Console                    1      1876 K Unknown         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
AdMunch.exe                   3848 Console                    1      6352 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:02 AdMuncherTranslateWindow                                                
 
acrotray.exe                  3868 Console                    1      5844 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 AcrobatTrayIcon                                                         
 
iTunesHelper.exe              3876 Console                    1      4096 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 HelperMsgListenerWnd                                                    
 
GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe     3884 Console                    1        424 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 {A7E495BF-9589-4a6e-8479-DDA2D8D3C05F}                                  
 
msnmsgr.exe                   3892 Console                    1     11076 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:04 Moniteur d'vnements - Messenger Plus!                                 
 
daemon.exe                    3900 Console                    1      6260 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 Virtual DAEMON Manager V4.09HE                                          
 
rundll32.exe                  3924 Console                    1      3724 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 NVSVC_WINDOW_NAME                                                       
 
SqlAssist.exe                 2288 Console                    1     10160 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 TSqlAssistServer                                                        
 
iPodService.exe               2376 Services                   0      4368 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
FNPLicensingService.exe       1628 Services                   0      2384 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
SqlWb.exe                     3636 Console                    1     57392 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:04 Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio                                  
 
usnsvc.exe                    3468 Services                   0      3464 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
conime.exe                    2156 Console                    1      3748 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
taskmgr.exe                   2212 Console                    1     10404 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:01:11 Windows Task Manager                                                    
 
OUTLOOK.EXE                   3732 Console                    1    150740 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:02:32 Inbox - Microsoft Outlook                                               
 
iexplore.exe                  2208 Console                    1     68188 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:14 SoftTree Technologies :: View topic - Brought down Windows... - Windows 
 
msnmsgr.exe                   2712 Console                    1     12236 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:06 Nancy - Conversation                                                    
 
SearchProtocolHost.exe        6116 Services                   0      8764 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
SearchFilterHost.exe          3132 Services                   0      5176 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM                                     0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
cmd.exe                       2660 Console                    1      2228 K Running         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 C:\Windows\system32\cmd.exe                                             
 
tasklist.exe                  4736 Console                    1      5736 K Unknown         SARENZA\ramaral                                         0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
WmiPrvSE.exe                  4256 Services                   0      5804 K Unknown         NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE                            0:00:00 N/A                                                                     
 
 
 
Services.txt: 
 
 
 
 
Image Name                     PID Services                                    
 
========================= ======== ============================================
 
System Idle Process              0 N/A                                         
 
System                           4 N/A                                         
 
smss.exe                       436 N/A                                         
 
csrss.exe                      512 N/A                                         
 
wininit.exe                    564 N/A                                         
 
csrss.exe                      576 N/A                                         
 
services.exe                   608 N/A                                         
 
lsass.exe                      620 Netlogon, ProtectedStorage, SamSs           
 
lsm.exe                        628 N/A                                         
 
winlogon.exe                   792 N/A                                         
 
svchost.exe                    816 DcomLaunch, PlugPlay                        
 
svchost.exe                    872 RpcSs                                       
 
svchost.exe                    904 WinDefend                                   
 
svchost.exe                    964 Audiosrv, Dhcp, Eventlog, lmhosts, wscsvc   
 
svchost.exe                    996 AudioEndpointBuilder, CscService, EMDMgmt,  
 
                                   hidserv, Netman, PcaSvc, SysMain,           
 
                                   TabletInputService, TrkWks, UmRdpService,   
 
                                   UxSms, WdiSystemHost, WPDBusEnum, wudfsvc   
 
svchost.exe                   1008 AeLookupSvc, BITS, CertPropSvc, gpsvc,      
 
                                   IKEEXT, iphlpsvc, LanmanServer, MMCSS,      
 
                                   ProfSvc, RasMan, Schedule, seclogon, SENS,  
 
                                   SessionEnv, ShellHWDetection, Themes,       
 
                                   Winmgmt, wuauserv                           
 
audiodg.exe                   1128 N/A                                         
 
SLsvc.exe                     1196 slsvc                                       
 
svchost.exe                   1288 EventSystem, fdPHost, FDResPub,             
 
                                   LanmanWorkstation, netprofm, nsi, SSDPSRV,  
 
                                   upnphost, W32Time, WebClient                
 
svchost.exe                   1400 CryptSvc, Dnscache, KtmRm, NlaSvc, TapiSrv, 
 
                                   TermService                                 
 
spoolsv.exe                   1576 Spooler                                     
 
svchost.exe                   1604 BFE, DPS, MpsSvc                            
 
AppleMobileDeviceService.     1848 Apple Mobile Device                         
 
mDNSResponder.exe             1860 Bonjour Service                             
 
GoogleUpdate.exe              1944 N/A                                         
 
SMSvcHost.exe                 1952 NetPipeActivator, NetTcpActivator,          
 
                                   NetTcpPortSharing                           
 
nod32krn.exe                   380 NOD32krn                                    
 
oodag.exe                      456 O&O Defrag                                  
 
svchost.exe                     12 PolicyAgent                                 
 
svchost.exe                    772 stisvc                                      
 
svchost.exe                   1356 W3SVC, WAS                                  
 
webtool.exe                    676 webtool                                     
 
svchost.exe                    556 WerSvc                                      
 
MsPMSPSv.exe                  2064 WMDM PMSP Service                           
 
SearchIndexer.exe             2096 WSearch                                     
 
taskeng.exe                   2508 N/A                                         
 
taskeng.exe                   3416 N/A                                         
 
dwm.exe                       3508 N/A                                         
 
explorer.exe                  3548 N/A                                         
 
stsystra.exe                  3696 N/A                                         
 
jusched.exe                   3708 N/A                                         
 
nod32kui.exe                  3724 N/A                                         
 
issch.exe                     3840 N/A                                         
 
AdMunch.exe                   3848 N/A                                         
 
acrotray.exe                  3868 N/A                                         
 
iTunesHelper.exe              3876 N/A                                         
 
GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe     3884 N/A                                         
 
msnmsgr.exe                   3892 N/A                                         
 
daemon.exe                    3900 N/A                                         
 
rundll32.exe                  3924 N/A                                         
 
SqlAssist.exe                 2288 N/A                                         
 
iPodService.exe               2376 iPod Service                                
 
FNPLicensingService.exe       1628 FLEXnet Licensing Service                   
 
SqlWb.exe                     3636 N/A                                         
 
usnsvc.exe                    3468 usnjsvc                                     
 
conime.exe                    2156 N/A                                         
 
taskmgr.exe                   2212 N/A                                         
 
OUTLOOK.EXE                   3732 N/A                                         
 
iexplore.exe                  2208 N/A                                         
 
msnmsgr.exe                   2712 N/A                                         
 
SearchProtocolHost.exe        6116 N/A                                         
 
SearchFilterHost.exe          3132 N/A                                         
 
WmiPrvSE.exe                  4256 N/A                                         
 
cmd.exe                       4380 N/A                                         
 
tasklist.exe                  4468 N/A                                         
 
 
 
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				Great. Thank you! We will study the results and if possible try to reproduce the environment.
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				Hi everybody, 
 
 
We've developed special version of SQL Assistant to help with troubleshooting Vista lockups issues. Please help us identify the problem on your systems so we can fix it for you. Here is what we are asking to do. 
 
 
1. Shutdown SQL Assistant if it is running on your Vista machine. 
 
2. Backup C:\Program Files\SQL Assistant folder to some other folder on your disk. 
 
3. Download http://www.softtreetech.com/sqlassist/builds/2.5.16_preview.zip and unzip it into the folder mentioned above 
 
4. Open command line and navigate to C:\Program Files\SQL Assistant folder. Start SQL Assistant using the following command 
 
sqlassist.exe "/SA:TraceLogLevel:9" 
 
5. Do what is necessary to reproduce the locking keyboard/mouse issue 
 
6. Restart the system and after restart either post the contents of email C:\Program Files\SQL Assistant\data\sqlassist.log file or email it to support. 
 
 
Your help with resolving this issue is greatly appreciated.
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			pkmccarthy 
			 
			
  
			
			
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				my trial version is expired so it throws the "expired message" - i have the 2.5.16 preview all ready to go except for this issue - as soon as you give me some way to get past the trial expiration i will test it for you....\
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			pkmccarthy 
			 
			
  
			
			
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				actually the program still shows up in my task bar and so i repeated the steps of opening VS2005 and then opening SSMS with a runas different user and while the tool is not giving me intelisense its not locking up the keyboard....
 
 
i did start it with the trace switch -- is there a location it writes the trace log to?
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		| Fri Aug 10, 2007 5:36 pm | 
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				The log file can be found in the Data subfolder. Please email to support account (see SQL Assistant's About page in the options) and I will send you a license key to use for the testing.
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			pkmccarthy 
			 
			
  
			
			
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				i can get the about window to come up from the icon in the icon tray but since the program is expired i cannot get to the options about - just the about from the icon tray - there is no email address there - i will surf your site here to look for one and email you the log file....
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